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Insider Interviews: Joseph Tota CEO and Founder of Tapville

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Tapville CEO and Founder Joseph Tota

Tapville is the first fully self-pour and self-service concept to go to market. It’s a tech company cleverly disguised as a simple beer-pouring mechanism. Its CEO and founder, Joseph Tota, started programming back in the ’80s on a Commodore 64 that barely had 64 bytes of memory. His passion for technology led him to start his consulting firm, JBT Consulting Group. He sold that firm in 2011 and moved onto his next big venture, Tapville.

Peter: Can you tell us about your concept launch? How did you initially formulate the idea for the Tapville Social concept? 

Joseph Tota: Before being in the business, I was a consultant. I worked for larger brands such as McDonalds and Buffalo Wild Wings, making these problems appear more obvious for me. Nobody likes to wait for a beverage at restaurants. We noticed that and set out to solve that problem. Our kiosks collect a lot of data that’s useful for the restaurant owners and us.

We have data ranging from how much customers are pouring, which products are frequently ordered together, proximity detection, the busiest time of day/week, and more. Brick & mortar restaurants centered around self-service. We built the world’s first mobile taproom, and we’re looking to deploy it in malls and airports.

Tapville concept in a Mall

Have you made any pivots from your initial concept?

We have, yes. We originally started as a brick & mortar restaurant. Shortly afterward, we found out that we were good at the technology piece, so we moved towards building a “Kiosk” concept in malls. Then we moved to a mobile concept. Now we’re working on a new product called “Tap Wall.” It’s a self-pour tap with refrigeration built-in.

How difficult (or easy) were those changes to make?

We were good with technology, so the change wasn’t difficult. When we pivot, we just changed our model based on what we’re good at: technology, self-service, and self-pour. The pandemic ended up helping us instead of hurting.

Touch-less ordering experience

What benefits does the Tapville model offer in the era of social distancing?

All orders can be done via a mobile device or tablet at the table. So you’re socially distanced from staff. All beverages are self-pour, so there’s no need to interact with the staff. We’re offering a genuinely touch-less experience that lets the customer have control over the pour themselves. We also have a mobile app for customers. So they can order directly from their phone or on one of the self-ordering devices at their table.

Tapville seems like a tech-forward franchise. How do you leverage technology, and how does that impact franchisees?

We’ve taken sophisticated technology and made it easy for Franchisees to utilize that. We make it easy for you to run your business without needing to know how all the behind-the-scenes stuff work.

Do you have any patents? Is it difficult for others to copy your concept?

Where we differentiate is the tech stacks that we built, which create the optimal tool-sets for businesses. Anyone can buy a point of sale system, but it doesn’t mean they’ll be McDonald’s or Starbucks. We’ve been doing this for five years now. It’s cool stuff. If you come into our establishment and love IPA, we can send you specific marketing for your preferences. We’re able to market to customer’s preferences.

What has your growth been like in the past five years? 

We started with our first location in Elmer’s, Illinois, in 2016. We opened our 2nd location in 2018 in Naperville, Illinois. About a year ago, we started franchising after we got the business model down.

At what point did you feel Franchising made sense?

I help franchise companies make operations manuals, training programs, and assets. So I’m very familiar with the concept of franchising. We had hundreds of inquiries from people asking to franchise our concept. It just made sense for this to be the next step for us. 

In your experience, what separates successful technology incorporation from failed incorporation?

There’s a lot of great techs out there. The ability to break it down, making it easy to understand, and ensuring it’s easy to use by the end-user is the key. It’s pointless to build great technology that no one can use. Our tech stack is comprehensive, but we broke it down to be simple enough for operators to use.

Do you have partners?

I’m the founder and CEO. I have a team of exceptional advisors in various industries. Sean Thomas, who is the grandson of Dave Thomas, is one of our advisors. Dave Thomas is the founder of Wendy’s. Brandt Kucharski was one of the earliest employees of Grubhub and helped the company grew from $3 million in revenue to $1 billion.

Are you currently raising capital?

Yes, we’re currently raising capital through equity crowdfunding. We’ve raised almost $400,000 from Start Engine. If you’re interested in becoming an early investor of Tapville, check us out on Start Engine.

Was there ever a point where you almost gave up?

That’s a good question. As an entrepreneur, there are always challenging moments. I used to run ultra-marathons. In a long race like that, you constantly think about giving up. And business is similar to that. You have to figure out how to move obstacles in your way and move past them. I’ve never thought of giving up, but there definitely have been challenges. This year is one of them.

You mentioned this year is challenging. How come?

It’s difficult to get funding right now for new locations. Many SBA lenders are hesitant to give out loans, which makes it harder for potential franchisees to sign on. We’re hopeful the situation will improve.

You recently closed an eleven-unit deal in Florida. Can you tell us a bit about those units/concepts?

The particular franchisee actually came from the Orange Theory system. He was one of Orange Theory’s earliest franchisees and was successful with their system. He made enough to sell his business and moved on to other ventures. There’s a lot of interest in purchasing our Kiosks for use in malls and airports.

Where do you see yourself and Tapville in the next six months?

We’re the first self-pour, self-service, food & beverage concept to go to market. We have a whole ordering concept that no one else has. Within the next six months, we’re going to see a lot of our deals closed. Next year we’re going to make sure our franchisees have a successful launch. Our capital raise is helping fund a lot of that. In Q2 of next year, we’ll see a lot more openings with the news of the vaccines coming out.

Thank you Joseph.

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Insider Interviews: Craig Batiste Co-Founder and CEO of Mr. Fries Man

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Mr. Fries Man

The wildly-popular and quickly-growing brand, Mr. Fries Man, is one of the best franchise success stories in recent years. Mr. Fries Man’s unlikely trajectory is fascinating from a growth-strategy standpoint, representing a sign-of-the-times, seismic shift in industry marketing. A husband and wife duo, selling French fries from the small kitchen of their two-bedroom home in Gardena, California, amassed a social media following sufficient to balloon their business into a brick-and-mortar restaurant. The pair then managed to sign twenty-one franchisees in less than seven months (many during the peak of the COVID-19 pandemic).

We had to learn the secrets behind Mr. Fries Man’s impressive success, so we sat down with Craig Batiste, Mr. Fries Man’s Co-Founder and CEO to find out.

Peter: The birth of the Mr. Fries Man concept is well-documented (including by the Los Angeles Times) and an incredible story, but we’d love to hear from your perspective, what the most important moments were for you in developing the Mr. Fries Man brand? 

Craig Batiste: Man, every day to tell you the truth, every day was important for us. You get better every day. You build the right process, you find the right products, the right food, ingredients, meats to use.

How long do you think that took you to do, or are you still learning and adjusting today?

We’re still doing it today, we’re working on a few more things!! But, about a year-and-a-half ago, we built the process to a point where Dorothy and I could step away a bit and let the business run itself. That allowed us to focus on expanding the business and franchising.

Can you tell us about some of the high-points for the Mr. Fries Man brand?

When we started franchising, that was one of the highest points, that’s when we saw that we had something good. We just started getting a lot of people asking, looking to either partner up or own their own Mr. Fries Man. We knew that if we partnered with someone, we’d be doing all the work to expand further and further, but with franchising, we’d give people the opportunity to build their own business.  

Buffalo Ranch Chicken Fries from Mr. Fries Man

Can you tell us about some of the low-points or challenges you faced?

Honestly, we didn’t have too many low points, just learning how to do everything on our own was tough. Doing our own research on moving into the brick-and-mortar location and figuring out how to get off the ground was a lot. But as time went on we learned more and more and things got easier.

Other than that, just asking ourselves in the beginning, “is this going to work? Selling fries out the backyard. . . .” was tough.

How important was Instagram in your brand development and early stages?

It’s been very important, that’s how people know who we are! Yup, Instagram played a big part.

When did you start to focus on Instagram and why?

At that time, back in 2015 and 2016, it was like the thing to do. Everyone was selling food on Instagram in LA, that’s what they’d do. It’s free marketing!! Man, it worked great for us, it was FRYTASTIC!

FRYTASTIC Lemon Garlic Shrimp from Mr. Fries Man

Can you tell us a little about shifting from an Instagram-based model with no physical location to a brick-and-mortar store? 

Still to this day it doesn’t feel real. It’s a feeling I just can’t explain. We started selling fries in our backyard, now we’re selling franchise businesses. No loans, no investors, just our hard work we put into it, every day. Man, I can’t describe the feeling!

Was that change easy to make?

Moving to a location with commercial kitchen equipment in it made it much easier. Just more space, more room to work, compared to a two bedroom apartment kitchen. Bigger fryers, a walk in freezer, you know, just what you need. 

You’ve brought on an impressive number of franchisees over the past few months, how many locations are in the process of opening? And to what do you attribute the incredible growth?

Right now, there are twenty-four in the process of opening.

And that’s us doing what we do!! Our support system, customers, without them, without social media, we wouldn’t have any growth. Without that, no one would know who we are, or what we’re doing.

What’s in store for Mr. Fries Man for the rest of 2021? And what’s in store for Mr. Fries Man in 2022?

Same program, get bigger and get better, everyday.

Craig and Dorothy Batiste posing with their billboard in Los Angeles, California

If someone wants to join the system and offer some of that Lemon Garlic Shrimp & Snow Crab goodness, how can they get in touch with you?

Contact me through Intagram, and all of our info is up. there on Instagram! 

Thank you Craig.

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